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Intersex Reframes On Sex & Gender

An illustration with rainbow colors in the background. In the foreground, there are two people holding the intersex flag behind them. The person on the left has medium-tone skin with dark brown hair in two top-knots on either side of their head. They're wearing a white T-shirt tucked into blue jeans and a choker. The person on the right has lighter skin and chin-length brown, straight hair. They're wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans, with a necklace with a gold pendant on it. The flag behind both people is yellow with a large purple circle outline in the center. The word "Embodied" is at the top of the illustration.
Charnel Hunter

We first learn about sex as a binary, but the existence of intersex folks tells a different story. Anita hears from an intersex physician, the parent of an intersex tween, and two young intersex adults about advocacy, the state of medical care and pushing back on binaries.

Intersex is to describe people with biological sex traits that don’t fit into strict male or female categories. There are many variations to being intersex — some folks have different combinations of chromosomes, like XXY instead of XX or XY, while others are born with both ovarian and testicular tissues. Intersex folks can learn they are intersex at birth, at puberty, in adulthood or not at all. It can be difficult to pinpoint how often variations occur, but it is estimated that up to 2% of the population is intersex.

Host Anita Rao talks about what it means to be intersex with physician , who is also an intersex person. Suegee describes the decades-long attempt to erase intersex folks from existence, including through non-medically necessary surgeries on intersex children. She also discusses what support is available for intersex youth in their adolescent years and the importance of intersex community.

Anita also talks with parent Eric Lohman, whose 12-year-old child, Wade, was born with an intersex variation called . Eric recounts how he and his wife refused surgery to alter Wade’s genitals at birth, and he explains how they’ve helped Wade explore gender and make decisions about his own body as he’s gotten older.

And a special thank you to Sam and Hillel, two intersex young adults who shared their experiences with us for this episode. In the conversation, they share their thoughts on what it means to be intersex, the experience of puberty and gender identity and their hopes for the future in terms of intersex awareness and advocacy, particularly in medicine.

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Kaia Findlay is the lead producer of Embodied, ¹ÏÉñapp's weekly podcast and radio show about sex, relationships and health. Kaia first joined the ¹ÏÉñapp team in 2020 as a producer for The State of Things.
Anita Rao is an award-winning journalist, host, creator, and executive editor of "Embodied," a weekly radio show and podcast about sex, relationships & health.
Amanda Magnus is the executive producer of Embodied, a weekly radio show and podcast about sex, relationships and health. She has also worked on other ¹ÏÉñapp shows including Tested and CREEP.