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Meet John Williams, Leading A Model High School

John Williams

is fond of saying that he does not have problem children, but children with problems.

Williams is the principal of in Chapel Hill, an alternative school that has no school resource officers.

In the last three years, Phoenix Academy has become a model high school for other alternative institutions in North Carolina.

Most recently, the school was recognized as a model institution by the U.S. Department of Education's Positive Behavioral Interventions and Supports (PBIS) program. 

Host Frank Stasio talks with Williams about his life and work in public education.

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Will Michaels is ¹ÏÉñapp's Weekend Host and Reporter.
Longtime NPR correspondent Frank Stasio was named permanent host of The State of Things in June 2006. A native of Buffalo, Frank has been in radio since the age of 19. He began his public radio career at WOI in Ames, Iowa, where he was a magazine show anchor and the station's ¹ÏÉñapp Director.
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